tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post6847529756311351565..comments2023-10-01T14:22:47.269+01:00Comments on A Likely Story: Anti Plagiarism Day - 17th JulyTeresa Ashbyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15350697922935549188noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-2732419797133764382010-08-03T17:36:51.082+01:002010-08-03T17:36:51.082+01:00Plagiarize checker<a href="http://plagiarisma.net" rel="nofollow">Plagiarize checker</a>Popular Plagiarism Checkerhttp://plagiarisma.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-86757464443980251122010-01-27T01:23:16.386+00:002010-01-27T01:23:16.386+00:00Thanks Teresa, will definately keep at it. I just ...Thanks Teresa, will definately keep at it. I just hope it pays off in the end.<br /> <br />ShashanaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-56513014446444713412010-01-26T07:48:37.676+00:002010-01-26T07:48:37.676+00:00Thank you, Shashana for your lovely comment. Sound...Thank you, Shashana for your lovely comment. Sounds as if you are going about things the right way, reading the magazines to get a feel for them (a lot of people don't). <br /><br />I remember how scary it was sending in my first story and to be honest, it still is a bit. Every time you send one in there's a bit of a wobble.<br /><br />My advice to you would be to keep reading and keep sending stories in - don't wait for a verdict on the first one. Good luck Shashana.Teresa Ashbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350697922935549188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-5931091473965164182010-01-25T21:18:30.764+00:002010-01-25T21:18:30.764+00:00Oh my,Teresa,i can't believe people do things ...Oh my,Teresa,i can't believe people do things like that. And what a pathetic excuse she gave you.<br /><br />I've been practicing to write short stories for ages, and i've studied both Take A Break FF and WWFF, to get a feel of the type of story they want, and i've seen how good your work is. i'm a massive fan of it. But i can't see, in anyway, how copying your work gave her any satisfaction.<br /><br />I've only just plucked up the courage to send one of my stories to TAB, i'm planning to send one also to WWFF. And although i'm preparing myself for the rejection, i would probably go nuts if something like that ever happened to me; considering how hard i'm trying at the moment.<br /><br />fingers cross!<br />Shashana CampbellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-58532836546610369632009-07-21T07:11:12.920+01:002009-07-21T07:11:12.920+01:00Thanks Diane. I'm very glad I sorted it out.
...Thanks Diane. I'm very glad I sorted it out.<br /><br />Elaine that's awful! And what neck to announce his success in class - some people just don't see any wrong in it do they.Teresa Ashbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350697922935549188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-15485824466831860302009-07-21T00:57:22.490+01:002009-07-21T00:57:22.490+01:00Teresa, that must have been so upsetting for you. ...Teresa, that must have been so upsetting for you. I've had a couple of my articles turn up on websites and it's hard to get them removed let alone any payment. like you say, writing is our living and the whole thing can be very distressing. I also had a student announce in class that he had sold an article to an educational publication. I then found out it was a lesson plan that I'd taught him a few months previously. I felt as though I'd been mugged. My husband asked why I hadn't thought to sell it on...<br /><br />Elaine EverestAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-22729413126527246412009-07-20T11:19:20.370+01:002009-07-20T11:19:20.370+01:00What a fantastic story, and a word of warning. Of ...What a fantastic story, and a word of warning. Of course we hear of it happening, and we worry. But we usually expect it to be a few paragraphs at most. Not an entire story verbatim. No wonder you felt sick, and yes I think anyone would have checked and checked again. Good for you sorting it out.Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06430125606844410229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-86088957015039219212009-07-19T19:20:06.703+01:002009-07-19T19:20:06.703+01:00That is spooky, Sally!That is spooky, Sally!Teresa Ashbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350697922935549188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-72893665330756555102009-07-19T19:08:04.787+01:002009-07-19T19:08:04.787+01:00Teresa W, I wouldn't worry too much about that...Teresa W, I wouldn't worry too much about that. A few years ago, for NaNoWriMo, I wrote a novel called End Game. It had a black FBI agent, and ended with the President's wife being implicated in his (the president's) assassination. A few months later, my daughter got a DVD and said 'Mum, you've got to watch this'. It was called End Game, and had a black agent (CIA rather than FBI) played by Cuba Gooding Jnr, and ended with the President's wife being implicated in his assassination. I hadn't copied that story, and I'm pretty sure (given how long it takes to film and for a DVD to be realised) they hadn't copied mine. Mine was set in the future, so different enough, but the main gist of the story was the same. <br /><br />It just happens sometimes that we come up with the same idea as someone else. That's not the same as wholesale plundering of someone else's work.Quillershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00148636009202550512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-62631417866289120522009-07-19T09:00:20.182+01:002009-07-19T09:00:20.182+01:00Thanks Sally – and when it comes to magazines in o...Thanks Sally – and when it comes to magazines in other languages we’ve got even less chance.<br /><br />Teresa I think that has probably happened to most of us at some time or other when stories collide with our own. And the fear of being wrongly accused of plagiarism is always with us. I would definitely bring your story out again. When you think of how long it takes for a decision, then the wait for publication, it would be some time before it was published. But most importantly YOU know you didn’t copy it.<br /><br />Defies belief doesn’t it, Julie. <br /><br />That’s it exactly, Karen. Where is the sense of achievement?<br /><br />Ladybird World Mother (Love the name!) – scary that there are people out there like that isn’t it!Teresa Ashbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350697922935549188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-39672376104005160402009-07-18T19:02:50.369+01:002009-07-18T19:02:50.369+01:00Just amazing that someone can think they can get a...Just amazing that someone can think they can get away with it... that they do it at all is beyond the pale. Poor you.Ladybird World Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04410236464722005178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-49141910214273922772009-07-18T18:31:05.049+01:002009-07-18T18:31:05.049+01:00What an amazing and lucky coincidence that you spo...What an amazing and lucky coincidence that you spotted the story Teresa. Like I said on Sally's blog, surely it must be a hollow victory getting paid for words that you didn't even write?Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05986874444030474719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-49500981541211328002009-07-18T16:56:24.736+01:002009-07-18T16:56:24.736+01:00The lengths that some people will go to never ceas...The lengths that some people will go to never ceases to amaze me, Teresa! How lazy is that? To copy someone's work and pass it off as your own?! And as you say it involves no talent whatsoever. <br /><br />They want a quick fix to get published - didn't she think how amoral and unethical it is to do that? Words fail me! We all want to write the best stories we can but you do that through hard work and writing your own stories not nicking someone else's. Some people! I hope she gets a taste of her own medicine!<br /><br />Julie xxJulie Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06546678603569056691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-66407629303365504862009-07-18T15:25:44.298+01:002009-07-18T15:25:44.298+01:00This makes me more paranoid than ever. As yet I...This makes me more paranoid than ever. As yet I'm unpublished, and still learning the craft. But the question of plagiarism has crossed my mind. I wrote a short story a few months ago, which I decided to try to submit, but before I did, I analysed the short story magazines to see which may suit it best, and see where I needed to tweak it to suit that publication.<br /><br />Imagine my disappointment when I found a story, written by a very well known writer, which was so similar, in theme and plot, the only difference being mine had a house causing the problem, hers had a daughter! The effect on the main character was the same, the emotion was the same, the outcome was the same, just a different object. No way had my story been plagiarised, not at all, but now I've shelved mine for fear of being accused myself. In a way, I'm pleased that mine was so similar to an accepted story, in that it shows I'm getting there, but that's not the point.<br /><br />I may bring it out again in a year or so and have another look, but this whole plagiarism issue is certainly scary, not just for established writers like yourself, who may be copied, but for the hopeful writers like me who, perhaps, could be wrongly accused of doing so.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05820867902032070192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-71104934925136315592009-07-18T14:13:10.941+01:002009-07-18T14:13:10.941+01:00What a chilling story, Teresa. It was lucky that y...What a chilling story, Teresa. It was lucky that you found out. Let's face it, how many of us get the chance to read many overseas magazines? I don't feel sorry for the woman either, and unless she was particularly stupid, I think she must have known that what she was doing was wrong, both morally and legally. I'm linking to this post too.Quillershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00148636009202550512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-31403932717307502182009-07-18T10:56:27.041+01:002009-07-18T10:56:27.041+01:00Congratulations Niddy! You're right, that'...Congratulations Niddy! You're right, that's the way it is for most of us.<br /><br />You must have had mixed feelings, Womag - but I would have been tickled too!<br /><br />Makes you wonder doesn't it, Maddie.<br /><br />That was lucky, Sue! But yes it makes you paranoid when things like that happen.<br /><br />Thank you marian - I seem to have been inspired a lot by gulls recently - perhaps because they've been waking me up in the early hours! Not that I mind, I do like the noise they make.Teresa Ashbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350697922935549188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-61448626180232173972009-07-18T10:23:31.933+01:002009-07-18T10:23:31.933+01:00It is a horrible thing to have happened to you, Te...It is a horrible thing to have happened to you, Teresa. And like the others it does make you think how much of it is going on without our knowledge. Off to google myself now. PS: I liked our story in WW fiction special the sound of the gulls. All the way through praying she would kick the husband where it hurts.marian hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-27383928194630982892009-07-18T09:51:59.907+01:002009-07-18T09:51:59.907+01:00I'm appalled that someone would do this to any...I'm appalled that someone would do this to any writer and amazed she thought she'd get away with it. Probably back then writers were less well connected ie through forums and blogs such as yours Teresa so she probably thought the risk was low in getting found out.<br />As far as I know I haven't been a victim of the cut and paste brigade but I have had stories pubbed without being told I even have a sale. Luckily an Oz writing friend spotted it and happened to send me congrats thus alerting me to the fact that I hadn't been told - or paid! I chased it up and think it was a genuine mistake but it does make you paranoid.Sue Houghtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14147561434172961209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-15870149751527544222009-07-17T22:26:34.272+01:002009-07-17T22:26:34.272+01:00That's awful. It's hard to believe that a...That's awful. It's hard to believe that anyone would have the gall to do that! I wonder if she ever did have any stories published of her own?<br /><br />I've had the situation of finding my stories in magazines, three times now, and not being aware that they were going to be published. Twice in an overseas mag and once here. Fortunately I saw them, contacted the editors and got apologies and payment, but I always wonder what would have happened if I hadn't spotted them!Jill Steepleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415291022830619230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-47658164359093426192009-07-17T21:49:13.497+01:002009-07-17T21:49:13.497+01:00How awful, Teresa! I wouldn't feel sorry for t...How awful, Teresa! I wouldn't feel sorry for the person in question at all. You say: 'She said that she loved the stories so much she just wanted to write something similar.' Yes, well, that's probably true of all aspiring women's mag writers, but what the majority of them do is sit down and have a go at 'writing something similar', not a cut-n-paste job. <br /><br />I once Googled my name and found a story I'd had published online had been copied and used in a Mexican school as an example of using the future tense in fiction. Not plagiarism because my name was on it, but breach of copyright. I let them keep it but suggested they ask the author's permission next time. I was outraged but secretly tickled to be a teaching aid.Kath McGurlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02526923882402757423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-65852591376830952242009-07-17T21:10:41.466+01:002009-07-17T21:10:41.466+01:00What a dreadful thing to happen.
I have only rece...What a dreadful thing to happen.<br /><br />I have only recently been successful in the womag market. It has taken me years of hard work to get to this point and the thought of someone taking advantage of all the blood, sweat and tears is beyond me.<br /><br />If anyone wants to write and be good, it takes years of hard work not a simple case of pinchng others - I sincerely hope she learnt her lesson.niddynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-58738684343226298222009-07-17T20:05:02.185+01:002009-07-17T20:05:02.185+01:00I’d always thought it was a virus checker, Geri. H...I’d always thought it was a virus checker, Geri. How would we ever know though if someone else was selling our stories abroad?<br /><br />It was a lucky day for me, Helen as it turned out.<br /><br />Thank you, Suzanne. That’s awful – what happened to your niece. Poor girl. No wonder she couldn’t sleep over it.<br /><br />Absolutely right, Patsy!<br /><br />Susan, I think some people think it’s acceptable to take a published story and rewrite it as their own. I’ve mixed feelings about that. It’s not something I’d do myself, but I think it is generally accepted as being okay. I do sympathise with your situation – it’s an uneasy feeling isn’t it.<br />I wouldn’t name the person who nicked my story – hopefully she’s moved on by now. <br /><br />Google is a marvellous thing isn’t it, Lynette! I’m glad you got compensation. <br /><br />Thanks, Jane – but thank YOU for starting this off!<br /><br />Thanks Helen. I can’t really understand why someone would do that either.Teresa Ashbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350697922935549188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-5450656791790775982009-07-17T19:53:22.859+01:002009-07-17T19:53:22.859+01:00Reading this, I felt sick on your behalf. I can&#...Reading this, I felt sick on your behalf. I can't imagine what posseses someone to do such a thing.HelenMWaltershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16182100572365505905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-11620387853487360542009-07-17T19:29:58.463+01:002009-07-17T19:29:58.463+01:00(By the way, I've added a link to this piece t...(By the way, I've added a link to this piece to my blog post now--thank you for your support!)Jane Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03411253302725735470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7328996877751363067.post-66165723439806283832009-07-17T19:28:55.259+01:002009-07-17T19:28:55.259+01:00Teresa, thank you for telling your own story: I fe...Teresa, thank you for telling your own story: I felt shivers as I read your account. Plagiarism is a horrible thing and the more we can do to inform people about it the better.Jane Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03411253302725735470noreply@blogger.com